tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post1449496547883553450..comments2024-03-28T13:54:16.110-07:00Comments on danger garden: The Farwest Show Part IIdanger gardenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09227500551609537140noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-32748161231475517982009-08-29T22:33:21.573-07:002009-08-29T22:33:21.573-07:00See, heaven does exist on earth !See, heaven does exist on earth !Deviant Deziner, aka Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10469269749640113223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-45815107013967222612009-08-27T13:00:02.683-07:002009-08-27T13:00:02.683-07:00Megan, funny...sounds like my list. I thought of s...Megan, funny...sounds like my list. I thought of something horrible on my way to work this morning (traffic makes my mind wander), I really doubt those people from Minnesota wanted to haul that tray of agaves home. I wonder what they would have said if I had came back at 6:00 and made them an offer? We could have been guerilla planting agaves all over town!!!<br /><br />Grace, I am sure that was the mix-up. I was dealing with the assistant in that booth and she probably used the wrong word not knowing that we would all be dissecting its meaning. I for one can't wait to get my hands on the Sea Oats! Glad to hear you agree.<br /><br />Nicole, well...I have to agree, not glamorous. But very interesting and impressive! Thanks for filling in the blanks and sharing your knowledge.danger gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227500551609537140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-69261460340533247382009-08-26T15:30:53.914-07:002009-08-26T15:30:53.914-07:00Danger Garden-my role is not very glamourous LOL. ...Danger Garden-my role is not very glamourous LOL. I write specialised commercial laws, including those on intellectual property rights-trademarks, patents, copyright etc. I have drafted the intellectual property laws for over a dozen countries, and the plant breeders' law for 3. <br />Your note on China is very valid-the countries where there are laws protecting plant breeders see many new varieites coming out every year, whereas ornamental plant resource rich countries where there are no protections see little activity-the local breeders and horticultural industry as a whole stand to benefit from the laws.<br />In several countries I have worked there were opponents to the new laws, who believed these were being imposed by the developed nations for their benefit, until I illustrated to the locals how they could benefit.<br />While I support the patenting of ornamentals there has been a lot of contention when it comes to food crops. Big seed companies push their seeds in poor countries and then claim the seeds are protected and the farmers can't plant the seeds saved. However the real culprit here is ignorance on the part of the farmers and lack of education and initiative by the Governments. Governments of poor countries should access and sell non-patented food crop seeds to their farmers and educate the farmers on the use of non hybrid seeds. There is actually a famous case " the enola bean patent" where an American wrongly applied for and got a patent for a seed bought in the market in Mexico. He then stopped mexican farmers from selling their yellow beans in the US and bought lawsuits against farmers and small seed companies! In 2008 after an 8 year battle the patent was struck down.Nicolehttp://caribbeangarden.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-7561928567020948022009-08-26T13:10:36.812-07:002009-08-26T13:10:36.812-07:00Hi DG~~ It's called "Patent" not cop...Hi DG~~ It's called "Patent" not copyright but it's the same thing. It was the aforementioned Terra Nova talk that convinced me that there is a place for Patenting plants. Tissue Culture and the development of newer, improved varieties is a very expensive and time consuming process. The developers/breeders want to be duly compensated with royalties. I think it's fair. But it's only the cultivated varieties or hybrids that can be patented. Straight species and some variant species can not be patented and can be propagated by "normal" people like you and me. [I worked at a nursery and my garden buddy Carol still does. She is a head propagator and has educated me from the grower's perspective.] That being said, I'm still not big on branding plants and I'll only buy one if it has characteristics that really appeal to me. [Pennisetum rubrum 'Fireworks' for instance.]<br /><br />The N. Sea Oats is a must-have. And those phormiums...worth killing for...almost.<br /><br />Thank you again for sharing your Far West day with us. I understand your being overwhelmed. Usually by the time I'm halfway through a plant shopping foray, I'm completely brain dead and babbling incoherently and thoroughly embarrassing myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-73981367551192643512009-08-25T22:36:30.762-07:002009-08-25T22:36:30.762-07:00I want to vote! Sea oats and that ptilotus, whatev...I want to vote! Sea oats and that ptilotus, whatever that is. Love them. And the kangaroos paws, love the color. I want one of each of those agaves. I really love the one with the dark green stripe down the middle. And the bamboo, and then the aloes. And all the pots. There, that would be my shopping spree. Geez. So much stuff to want.Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563840922463701366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-16562387563755342452009-08-25T20:57:55.937-07:002009-08-25T20:57:55.937-07:00Nicole, I suppose I could be wrong, but I am fairl...Nicole, I suppose I could be wrong, but I am fairly certain that is the word that was used. <br /><br />Nicole, ok you have me really wanting to know what role you play in this all! What is it that you do? Your point is understood, thank you for taking the time to comment.<br /><br />VW, that is just it! The NW Flower and Garden Show in Seattle and the Yard Garden and Patio Show here in Portland were the standard that I was measuring this by. Not even close...SO MUCH BIGGER!danger gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227500551609537140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-6451422125384973302009-08-25T16:14:27.523-07:002009-08-25T16:14:27.523-07:00I visited the garden show in Seattle a few years a...I visited the garden show in Seattle a few years ago and felt overwhelmed, too. It's great fun but a lot to take in for those of us who savor quiet moments in our gardens.VWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17539135776275337661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-44249549320677630192009-08-25T14:16:53.071-07:002009-08-25T14:16:53.071-07:00Very intereting how many people go up in arms abou...Very intereting how many people go up in arms about patented ornamentals. How do gardeners think they are getting all these faboulous new hybrids. Are plant breeders supposed to slave away for years to produce them for free just for other people's enjoyment? The small royalty on each plant is how the plant breeders recoup their investment and get paid. <br />We no longer live in an era where leisured aristocrats could spend days with their armies of gardeners experimenting and producing hybrids. Most patented ornamentals simply would not exist if the plant breeders could not have petented them.Nicolehttp://caribbeangarden.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1018965493805276234.post-83923499269584727272009-08-25T14:00:37.560-07:002009-08-25T14:00:37.560-07:00OMG I would have gone wild! You can't copyrigh...OMG I would have gone wild! You can't copyright plants-someone is using the wrong term.Nicolehttp://caribbeangarden.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com